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Old 04-11-2006, 09:21 PM
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Hey evry1

Am opting to go for a new TMIC instead of a FMIC. Want to possibly get boost control and up it a little bit. Any ideas on what to buy or anything else i need to consider.

Car is MY00. Pretty stock except for bigger fuel pump (not sure how big but needs a tune so i dont guzzle so much fuel and actually get some decent boost from 2500-4000rpm) and an APS cold air intake.

Any help is much appreciated.

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Old 04-11-2006, 09:33 PM
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hi mate, depends on what you want out of the car, if you want a full on "race" car go for the fmic. If not and you just want something alit more powerfull than stock but not full on, go larger tmic and bleed valve. I have GFB ATOMIC for sale $50.00 if you are interested pm me
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Old 04-11-2006, 10:35 PM
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if you are running a stock turbo (td04) then you should be able to go up a couple of psi without too much hassle. also, it may be difficult to tune the stock computer (presume it is) for greater efficincy with fuel unless you can get someone to ecutek or verso it when this becomes available.

I have everything stock with the exception of a full exhaust, intercooler spray and link ecu. stock the car ran 12-14 psi depending on the weather. with the link installed it ran 17.5 psi with the spray going and made 150kw at the treads on a roller dyno quite late in the day and in relatively warm conditions. poor economy too.
with a tune, the boost was dropped to a solid 16psi and power was the same with much improved economy.

given that you have stock boost levels now, a couple of psi extra should be no problem.

if you do go for a larger top mount then i would suggest either an aps unit or a hyperflow/pwr unit. both are reasonably larger than the stock one.

don't be fooled into buying the same year/model sti ones because they are exactly the same item. bug eye onwards are larger but will require some fabrication of brackets and a trim of your master cylinder to fit correctly.

top mounts are also better for turbo lag because you don't have a long set of pipes from the intake to the inlet manifold.

you will find that your stock turbo will start to kick in at around 2500rpm and die around 4500-5000 rpm. I found this out at the drags as the turbo simply is not efficient at high revs. the td04 is the smallest turbo fitted to a wrx and was primary chosen because it was not laggy and provided low down power. the larger ones come in later and last higher in the revs, producing more top-end power. hard to find a balance of a turbo that comes on early and holds high up.

hope this helps.
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go the full hog for fck salke . all the modes that you asked for are going to cost a ming anyway so go the full hog put evethting in it will make it goes fast or you wallet go fast. stop with all the hype if the dude wants to spend some money then the thing will go fast if not spend some money and go al little bit more fast y9ur choice

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go the full hog for fck salke . all the modes that you asked for are going to cost a ming anyway so go the full hog put evethting in it will make it goes fast or you wallet go fast. stop with all the hype if the dude wants to spend some money then the thing will go fast if not spend some money and go al little bit more fast y9ur choice

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Hey evry1

Am opting to go for a new TMIC instead of a FMIC. Want to possibly get boost control and up it a little bit. Any ideas on what to buy or anything else i need to consider.

Car is MY00. Pretty stock except for bigger fuel pump (not sure how big but needs a tune so i dont guzzle so much fuel and actually get some decent boost from 2500-4000rpm) and an APS cold air intake.

Any help is much appreciated.

GOOSE
Get an aftermarket ECU.

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hi mate, depends on what you want out of the car, if you want a full on "race" car go for the fmic. If not and you just want something alit more powerfull than stock but not full on, go larger tmic and bleed valve. I have GFB ATOMIC for sale $50.00 if you are interested pm me
Good luck
Who said "race" cars dont have use TMIC? Stay away from the bleed valve.

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if you are running a stock turbo (td04) then you should be able to go up a couple of psi without too much hassle. also, it may be difficult to tune the stock computer (presume it is) for greater efficincy with fuel unless you can get someone to ecutek or verso it when this becomes available.

I have everything stock with the exception of a full exhaust, intercooler spray and link ecu. stock the car ran 12-14 psi depending on the weather. with the link installed it ran 17.5 psi with the spray going and made 150kw at the treads on a roller dyno quite late in the day and in relatively warm conditions. poor economy too.
with a tune, the boost was dropped to a solid 16psi and power was the same with much improved economy.

given that you have stock boost levels now, a couple of psi extra should be no problem.

if you do go for a larger top mount then i would suggest either an aps unit or a hyperflow/pwr unit. both are reasonably larger than the stock one.

don't be fooled into buying the same year/model sti ones because they are exactly the same item. bug eye onwards are larger but will require some fabrication of brackets and a trim of your master cylinder to fit correctly.

top mounts are also better for turbo lag because you don't have a long set of pipes from the intake to the inlet manifold.

you will find that your stock turbo will start to kick in at around 2500rpm and die around 4500-5000 rpm. I found this out at the drags as the turbo simply is not efficient at high revs. the td04 is the smallest turbo fitted to a wrx and was primary chosen because it was not laggy and provided low down power. the larger ones come in later and last higher in the revs, producing more top-end power. hard to find a balance of a turbo that comes on early and holds high up.

hope this helps.
Look at 02+ STI tmics. Good bang for buck.

At the moment no one in Perth will tune ECUtek's for GC8. Apparently Verso Automotive have something in the works for GC8.

*I am in no way affiliated with Verso Automotive*

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go the full hog for fck salke . all the modes that you asked for are going to cost a ming anyway so go the full hog put evethting in it will make it goes fast or you wallet go fast. stop with all the hype if the dude wants to spend some money then the thing will go fast if not spend some money and go al little bit more fast y9ur choice

by the way iM druck so do n=t disten to me
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Good call, try a MRT Bar and Plate TMIC. Compared to original its huge and its a simple swap. Do the post turbo Y pipe + Full 3" exhaust. Unichip + boost module will keep it economical and is a cost effective option. Stay with the original air box and paper filter. Fit an intercooler water spray and temps will remain good.
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Hey Morgs,

what is the benefit of the turbo shield you are using?

not a standard fitment?

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Hey Morgs,

what is the benefit of the turbo shield you are using?

not a standard fitment?

Toni
Its a Turbo Heat Shield off a 94/95 WRX. Subaru Engineers thought it worthwhile albeit a bit controversial. Allows turbo heat to vent up when stationary and vents down and away from the intercooler when on the move. Its had a few other mods since that picture was taken but the chimney is still firmly in place.
Still love my intercooler...
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