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Old 11-04-2007, 08:56 PM
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Giddy, my question to you is... when then is a cop not a cop? We had a guy on the forums a couple of weeks ago saying he was a cop, then said he "roots hookers, downloads porn and smokes pot" All of which are illegal activities.

This is why I never became a cop myself, because I have never been able to answer the question or have it answered for me. If you're a cop and u have a mate who bought something off the back of the truck, do u go home, get ur hat and badge, go back to his house and arrest him?

Surely, when not on duty, its a case of "its not ur problem" fair enough, call the cops/friends who are on duty to come sort it out. I see illegal stuff everyday. Im sure the WA police don't want me ringing up every 45mins saying "licence plate ___________ just did an illegal u-turn at such and such street, go give him a ticket"
Obviously if he was saying shit like that, he aint a cop. A copper isnt going to be such a dick and say stuff like that. As for a cop not being a cop, well it isn't possible as you always are one. If you were to ring the local pd and let them know about all the seat bealts etc, of course the're gonna laugh and say not that important. But if it was to be info say in regards to a bloke dealing dope or some one with a clan lab etc, of course they are gonna be interested fully.
As for a mate buying off a truck, well my mates have enough brains not to do that but they did, they know obviously not to tell me. Its the whole "What he doesn't know wont hurt him" type thing.
But if I was to walk into a party and there was a bucket running in the laundry, I would walk out. Bottom line, mu friends know not to put me in that position to start with so I have no problems.
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how do you know he IS a cop though?
also downloading porn is illegal?
After I fingerprint you, you can have a copy.
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Old 12-04-2007, 07:47 AM
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As for your issue, reckless would have to be fully prooved with all the elements but alot easier just to send you a summons/ticket for careless driving. The new wording for careless driving is "drive without due care and attention" so most people dont get as offended for being accused as careless but its the same thing.
Giddy,

Thanks for that. Do you know what the penalty for this is?

I have heaps of points but if it is automatic suspension of license I would be stuffed.

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Old 12-04-2007, 08:24 AM
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I suggest you go to court IF you get a summons....your description of the event sounds as though it wasn't particularly a big deal. I had a "careless driving" summons from an off duty officer many years ago, I took it to court, defended myself and the officer was laughed out of court and the charge was dismissed in about 2 nano seconds.....
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Old 12-04-2007, 08:48 AM
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Fight it dude, you should be ok, especially if the officer did not return and take photos etc of the site.

End of the day your used to driving a WRX with not alot of torque down low and 4wd, this car (that youve rarely driven) was a torquey rwd which was light in the rear end... unintentional, and you back off....
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Old 12-04-2007, 09:24 AM
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Not that it makes a lick of difference but it does make me feel a little bit better, I had a mate get out of his car and have a look the next morning on his way to work and he is adamant that there were no black lines anywhere.

Again it will mean absolutely nothing but at least I feel that no doubt what happened was a mistake but not intentional / dangerous etc.
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Old 12-04-2007, 12:26 PM
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There is no need to take photos of the scene on the cops behalf but if it was a careless charge, it can be dealt with by infringement which is $150 and 3 points. Personally if I was her, I would send you that ticket and be done with it. Less paperwork that way :-)
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Old 12-04-2007, 04:54 PM
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Fight it dude....
My point exactly. If you believe you have a reasonable case, it never hurts to make enquiries (links provided etc) and if need be, follow the matter further with a court hearing. This is YOUR right as an Australian citizen... and any decent officer of the law should support you with grievances of this nature!

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you know he's a cop right?

Your also wrong, I was in court and had my friend told pretty much exactly that by a judge. The fact of the matter is the female officer must have heard/seen something to make her go to all this effort. Cop it on the chin like you are and next time be more careful
My current boss is an ex-cop, many of my family are employed in most of the services I've already mentioned... most of their bosses are ex-detectives etc etc. I myself worked for customs/ immigration straight out of university and nowadays probably have higher security clearances than most average cops being currently employed with department of justice/ witness protection etc.

It doesn't detract from the fact that a police officer is a human being in a uniform, and thus can be and quite frequently are just as fallable as any of us! Don't get me wrong, as you can probably appreciate I have nothing against cops and from some of the stories I regularly hear at work I don't envy their jobs at all! However there are more occasions than most would like to believe where officers abuse this power on a daily basis... and trust me, I have sat through MANY a court case where their asses are raped by judges.. and this includes issues such as traffic related etc that most of us would deem as petty!! So yes, I may appear 'wrong' based on the court case you've experienced... but I assure you I've been present and directly involved in many more over the years that could really illustrate the points I'm making here!

I'll also point out that there is a growing number of cases being reported of late where off-duty officers are stepping outside their professional boundaries and abusing their positions of power. Sometimes this is intentional, more often than not this is occuring due to lack of experience etc.
So unless it's a serious enough matter, I say learn to switch off and call someone who is on duty!! If not for everyone else's sake, for your own health... the burnout rate for federal police is high enough as it is!!
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Old 12-04-2007, 05:10 PM
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Dude, $150 and 3 demerits = cop it sweet.

Suspension = fight it, too many variables to prove (or at the least you'll provide a good fight), plus you said you have heaps of points basically proving you are a responsible driver.

Fords = don't fuckn drive em!
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I was going to say, if you had a wrx you would get your car confiscated, but then again if you had a wrx she never would have caught you!
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